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#1 mandoman

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:05 PM

I have a cab that has been barrell aging for 4.5 mos. I have not had the bung off but once at the 1.5 mo point. It has not been removed again and i did top it off. If there has been much evaporation, would the headspace be a problem for the wine or the barrell?

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

Yes, you risk oxidizing your wine as well as open it up for other issues. I top off everytime I open my barrel or every 4-6 weeks. There is suction in the headspace if your bung fits properly, but its certainly not a perfect vacuum. 1.5 months is time for sampling and topping off.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:41 PM

It does increase your risk for sure. The lowest risk is a full barrel. Opening and NOT topping is the highest risk.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:03 AM

given that in such a small barrel you have faster evaporation rates than you would in a full sized barrel
you will want to top it up.

you run the risk of oxidisation and spoilage . So2 is consumed more rapidly in a barrel , and faster still in a barrel with a wood to wine ration like a 23 litre barrel has .

I'd hate to see you open up the barrel and find the surface covered in Myconderma .

I'd reccomend you top up at 6 week intervals and check your so2 levels
Above all relax , it's winemaking ,it's not supposed to be stressfull . It's not sky diving.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:56 AM

given that in such a small barrel you have faster evaporation rates than you would in a full sized barrel
you will want to top it up.


What about on a 80-120L barrel? I've been letting it go 6 months but maybe have just been lucky...?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 12:16 PM

It's best practice to keep Any sized barrel topped up with adequate so2 . As Greg said anything else is higher risk.
Above all relax , it's winemaking ,it's not supposed to be stressfull . It's not sky diving.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:05 PM

Proper top up and SO2 management is often one of the weakest points for home winemakers.




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