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What's The Best Way To Dissolve Pvpp And Bentonite?


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#1 Pushn40

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 01:04 PM

Hello,

I'm having a devil of a time adding PVPP and Bentonite to my wines. I understand that PVPP does not really disovle, but when adding it to my wine it will almost always clump up - regardless of how slowly I add it to the wine. The Bentonite (Krystal Klear) seems to have a similar problem, though, it somewhat dissolves after letting it set for two hours as recommended.

Thanks in advance for any tips!

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 01:33 PM

Bentonite normally dissolves well when stirred into 100F water.
PolyClar typically requires a longer rehydration time. (a few hours). I have heard there is a newer granular form that dissolves quickly.
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Posted 03 May 2011 - 02:19 PM

I find a blender very useful.
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Posted 03 May 2011 - 02:36 PM

You are right Medsen, I forgot that I often steal my wife's hand blender during fermentation season to quickly dissolve things like Nutrients that have a tendency to clump.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 11:50 AM

Thanks for the tips gentlemen!

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 01:59 PM

I agree about the blender. I use a paint mixer for large volumes and an immersion blender for small stuff.

For the PVPP, make a slurry with a little bit of your wine and then add that.

For the Bentonite, I haven't used that brand, but all bentonite benefits from sitting around.

If you use KWK brand (or Vitaben), slowly add it to boiling water and let it sit for a day so it can fully hydrate. The minimum ratio of water is 1.8gal H2O / 1 lb bentonite. You'll need some math to reduce that down to usable carboy size, but if you just add enough so that it's consistency is thinner than yogurt, you'll be fine.

Personally I always taste my bentonite to make sure it doesn't have any cheesy flavors, which means it's old and will transfer bad things to your wine. Careful, if you do that you'll start to like it and your friends will make fun of you. :wacko:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 06:20 PM

With Bentonite, I like to add warm water a little at a time to first form a slurry and then add a little more water to make it a bit thinner. I add this to a jar with a lid and add the final amount of water and shake well.
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