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#1 lord1



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Posted 11 February 2011 - 03:38 AM

I have a riesling that appears to have gum arabic. even after tight DE filtration it is clogging the .8 and .45 membrane filters. How do I remove it so it will pass thru the membranes??

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 05:20 AM

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Did you add gum arabic to the wine? I wasn't aware it could get there without adding it. I've read it adds softness and roundness to a wine and is used a lot in commercial wines, and that it's an additive.
How old is the wine?
Please explain DE filtration too, I'm not familiar with it.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 05:51 AM

To answer Wade's question, DE is Diatomaceous Earth, commonly used in swimming pool filters, but is often used to filter wines. It is a neutral, granular product that is used to coat a coarse membrane, usually by circulating a stirred up slurry of DE through a filter. The coating of DE then traps fine particles in the wine. Normally, the wine is circulated back to the original container until the wine flows clear, then transferred to a receiving vessel. I've used this technique with my minijet, using coffee filters cut to size as the coarse membrane. It works well for a coarse filtration and is much less expensive than buying filter pads. Often I will use a fine filter pad after the DE filtration. I posted about this some time ago - here is a link: http://www.winepress...ileters-and-de/ .
I know nothing about gum arabic, but there was a recent thread on the subject here: http://www.winepress...45681-arabinol/ .

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:20 AM

I am a little confused by this. Most of the gum arabic descriptions say that the product is highly soluble and it will pass filters down to .45 microns. I would maybe wonder if something else is clogging the filters.

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:56 AM

You cant remove or fine it out,
Who ever added it must have used a lower filterbility type\quality for food industry not wine which pre filter the GA so it doesnt clog sterile filtration processing.

If it has residual sugar you may have to use sorbate or keep back flushing the filter every time they jam which I can only imagine how tidious it can be.

Why did he add it anyhow? Riestilng tends to have enough body\mouth even dry.

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