Annual Subscription Fee For Extra Sections?
Posted 01 October 2007 - 09:51 AM
Keep in mind that all this information has hopefully helped you out in the past. Some have donated, and it's greatly appreciated. But an annual fee would help me have a better handle on what to expect financially each year.
I apprecaite your help with this.. I would really just rather have more advertisers, but some mfgrs don't show interest, or just no budget....
Posted 01 October 2007 - 10:30 AM
Good Job Joel
Posted 01 October 2007 - 11:42 AM
Posted 01 October 2007 - 11:44 AM
That said, 99% of the content on the internet is free, like all the winemaking and grape growing yahoo-type groups, and even previously fee-based newspaper content is increasingly moving to no-charge business models.
I'm not sure what the right answer is for you, Joel, but I'd sure miss Winepress if it wasn't around any more.
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 04:56 PM
Posted 01 October 2007 - 05:27 PM
Joel, I enjoy WinePress.US. I very much appreciate all the efforts you put into this forum. It would be devastating to see it going away. What would I do all day?
I am one of those 10 that voted and if it requires an annual fee to continue WinePress.US so be it.
Posted 01 October 2007 - 06:08 PM
1. As far as "read for free" goes, can the site be set up so that anyone can read, but they can't post or search unless they subscribe? If someone wants to participate, they have to subscribe.
2. Is there a cost associated with making bandwidth available for a bunch of non-subscribers who would essentially be just lurking?
3. If the server happens to be loaded to at or near capacity, and a subscriber logs on, will a non-subscriber get bumped off?
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 06:39 PM
I'd gladly pay $10 a year to continue to be a member of this site.
Posted 01 October 2007 - 06:43 PM
It's not that bad Joel. I voted, I commented, and I think this is my 5th or 6th "peek" at the subject. Interested in your poll, curious, or just plain nosey? Call it what you want, but I think it's an important subject so I'll keep checking back ...and drive up your views! You provide a great service for all, and hope you feel appreciated for what you are doing for us.
OK! This is 7 views and one vote!
Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:13 PM
This site is extremely valuable, and like a "tasting fee" at a winery, a marketable charge shows that the owner thinks highly of the value of his business and it is then perceived by the consumer as more valuable. Who is your competition? What do they charge? What is your benefit to the market? And WHAT WILL THEY PAY? These are some of the hardest questions to answer in any business.
Other forums I've seen charge after a certain number of posts/looks, and leave a free segment that some will frequent but never join up. I'd say, carefully consider it and the value that is absorbed, and then you need to do a LOT to market it on the general website and elsewhere. It may mean a significant website redesign to accomplish this.
Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:25 PM
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:26 PM
Having said that, another way to look at it is how much does a subscription to Winemaker magazine cost? I think the amount of knowledge and advice found on this site should be worth as much as that or more. We don't expect to be able to get a magazine like Winemaker for free so should this site be available for free? Personally, I think we all need to voluntarily contribute so that's there's no need to change it into a pay site.
Posted 01 October 2007 - 09:58 PM
I'm still undecided.
Posted 01 October 2007 - 10:28 PM
I participate on paid boards and non-paid boards and there is 500+ times the traffic and participation on a non-paid board. Most boards have at least two groups of participants - oldtimers (experienced folks) who end up giving more advice than they get and newbies who ask more questions than they can answer. If everyone has to pay that means the oldtimers are paying to give advice for the benefit of the board. It's no wonder that you start to see the oldtimers clamming up on the paid boards. I belong to two boards relating to making movies - one paid and one free. There are some oldtimers I know who belong to both boards. On the free boards they chat up a storm - on the paid boards you only hear from them a little bit because they figure the moderator of the board and receiver of the fees ought to put in the work as the "expert" because they're getting paid for it.
I think if you make it voluntary, then everyone feels they're contributing to a collective good. At least it seems that way to me.
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